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		<title>Should you &#8220;undo&#8221; a 2010 Roth conversion?</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2011/09/26/should-you-undo-a-2010-roth-conversion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the last few months, there has been a significant decline in the stock market.  Some taxpayers may find that they are paying income taxes for a value that no longer exists.  The Internal Revenue Code permits a reversal to be done.  It is called a "recharacterization". According to questions and answers posted to the IRS web site (www.irs.gov), the final date for the notice and transfer to be done for a 2010 Roth conversion is October 17, 2011.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roth conversions were heavily promoted during 2010 because a special election was available to spread the taxable income from a conversion over two years to 2011 and 2012.</p>
<p>The opportunity was to accumulate additional value during 2010 while deferring the tax to 2011 and 2012.</p>
<p>Here is a link to an article I wrote about Roth conversions during 2010.  http://www.taxtrimmers.com/rothconversion.shtml</p>
<p>During the last few months, there has been a significant decline in the stock market.  Some taxpayers may find that they are paying income taxes for a value that no longer exists.</p>
<p>For example, if the value of the Roth account converted from a regular IRA during 2010 declined from $200,000 to $100,000 and the taxpayer is subject to the maximum 35% federal income tax rate, the federal income tax attributable to the Roth conversion could be reduced from $70,000 to $35,000 by &#8220;undoing&#8221; the 2010 Roth conversion and then making the conversion in 2011.</p>
<p>The Internal Revenue Code permits this reversal to be done.  It is called a &#8220;recharacterization&#8221;.  The Roth account trustee must be notified of the intention to recharacterize the Roth conversion to a transfer to a regular IRA account.   The plan assets must also be transferred from the Roth IRA account to a regular IRA account in a trustee-to-trustee transfer.  According to questions and answers posted to the IRS web site (www.irs.gov), the final date for the notice and transfer to be done for a 2010 Roth conversion is October 17, 2011.</p>
<p>When a recharacterization for 2010 is done, a Roth conversion can&#8217;t be done for 2011 until more than 30 days after the date of the recharacteriation.</p>
<p>There is some inconvenience involved in doing a recharacterization, including filing an amended 2010 income tax return if your has already been filed.  The amended return can be done after October 17, 2011.  If the decline in value has been small, I would leave the Roth conversion alone.</p>
<p>If you are wondering if you should &#8220;undo&#8221; a Roth conversion, I recommend that you consult with your investment advisor/financial planner and your tax advisor.</p>
<p>IRS Circular 230 Disclosure:  </p>
<p>As required by U.S. Treasury Regulations, you are hereby advised that any written tax advice contained in this communication was not written or intended to be used (and cannot be used) by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the U.S. Internal Revenue Code.</p>
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		<title>How to use a checkbook LLC to invest IRA and Roth funds</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2011/07/11/how-to-use-a-checkbook-llc-to-invest-ira-and-roth-funds/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly is with attorney Jeffrey B. Hare.  Our interview subject is, "Using a checkbook LLC to invest IRA and Roth funds". ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly to be broadcast in San Jose and Campbell this Wednesday, July 13, is with attorney Jeffrey B. Hare..  Our interview subject is, &#8220;Using a checkbook LLC to invest IRA and Roth funds&#8221;. The interview will be broadcast at 7:00 p.m. Pacific Time on Comcast Channel 15 in San Jose and Campbell, and will be broadcast as streaming video at the same time at www.creatvsj.org.</p>
<p>Remember you can find past episodes at www.financialinsiderweekly.com under &#8220;past episodes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>How should you handle retirement accounts after a death?</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2011/05/31/how-should-you-handle-retirement-accounts-after-a-death/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 14:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly is with attorney Naomi Comfort of Hawks &#038; Comfort.  Our interview subject is, "How to handle retirement accounts after a death".]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly to be broadcast in San Jose and Campbell this Wednesday, June 1, is with attorney Naomi Comfort of Hawks &#038; Comfort..  Our interview subject is, &#8220;How to handle retirement accounts after a death&#8221;. The interview will be broadcast at 7:00 p.m. Pacific Time on Comcast Channel 15 in San Jose and Campbell, and will be broadcast as streaming video at the same time at www.creatvsj.org.</p>
<p>Remember you can find past episodes at www.financialinsiderweekly.com under &#8220;past episodes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>What estate planning steps should be done for retirement accounts?</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2011/05/02/what-estate-planning-steps-should-be-done-for-retirement-accounts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 15:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly is with Raymond Sheffield, attorney at law with the Sheffield Law Office.  Our interview subject is, "Estate Planning For Retirment Accounts".]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly to be broadcast in San Jose and Campbell this Wednesday, May 4, is with Raymond Sheffield, attorney at law with the Sheffield Law Office.  Our interview subject is, &#8220;Estate Planning For Retirement Accounts&#8221;. The interview will be broadcast at 7:00 p.m. Pacific Time on Comcast Channel 15 in San Jose and Campbell, and will be broadcast as streaming video at the same time at www.creatvsj.org.</p>
<p>Remember you can find past episodes at www.financialinsiderweekly.com under &#8220;past episodes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Where do you report Roth conversions?</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2011/03/31/where-do-you-report-roth-conversions/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Report Roth conveersions at Part II of Form 8606.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a lot of publicity about making a Roth conversion during 2010 and the ability to have the taxable income deferred to 2011 and 2012.</p>
<p>Here is a link to my article on the subject.  http://www.taxtrimmers.com/rothconversion.shtml</p>
<p>Where do you report the conversion on your federal income tax return?</p>
<p>You report it at Part II of Form 8606.</p>
<p>Check the box at line 19 if you elect to have all of the income for the conversion taxed in 2010, and indicate the amount in the box on the same line.  Otherwise, indicate the amounts taxable in 2011 and 2012 on lines 20a and 20b.</p>
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		<title>How can you invest in real estate using your IRA or Roth account?</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2011/02/28/how-can-you-invest-in-real-estate-using-your-ira-or-roth-account/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly is with Lamarr Baxter of Entrust Administration.  Our interview subject is, "Investing in real estate using your IRA or Roth account."]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly to be broadcast in San Jose and Campbell this Wednesday, March 2, is with Lamarr Baxter, business development officer for Entrust Administration.  Our interview subject is, &#8220;Investing in real estate using your IRA or Roth account.&#8221; The interview will be broadcast at 7:00 p.m. Pacific Time on Comcast Channel 15 in San Jose and Campbell, and will be broadcast as streaming video at the same time at www.creatvsj.org.</p>
<p>Remember you can find past episodes at www.financialinsiderweekly.com under &#8220;past episodes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Look at Roth Conversion again for 2010</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2010/12/17/look-at-roth-conversion-again-for-2010/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that Congress passed The Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act of 2010 (HR 4853) on December 16, converting an IRA or 401(k) to a Roth looks more appealing.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Congress passed The Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization and Job Creation Act of 2010 (HR 4853) on December 16, converting an IRA or 401(k) to a Roth looks more appealing.</p>
<p>For 2010 only, the account owner can choose to have the taxable accumulation of the the account taxed one-half in 2011 and one-half in 2012, or to have the entire amount taxed in 2010.  Since we now know the federal tax rates won&#8217;t increase for 2011 and 2012, the Roth conversion looks much more attractive.</p>
<p>There is still the issue of coming up with the cash to pay the income taxes.  In order to get the maximum benefit from the conversion, all of the funds should be kept in the Roth account.  Most individuals don&#8217;t have liquid funds available to pay the tax for the conversion.</p>
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		<title>When IRAs and Roths Must Pay Income Taxes</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2010/09/23/what-the-irs-doesn%e2%80%99t-want-you-to-know-about-family-limited-partnerships-seminar/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lamaar Baxter of Entrust and Michael Gray, CPA will discuss When Self-Directed IRAs and Roths Must Pay Income Taxes at "meetings before the meetings" for the San Jose Real Estate Investors Association on 10/6 &#038; 10/7.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Note &#8211; there has been a change in schedule for Michael Gray&#8217;s LIVE seminars on October 6 and 7.  The following presentation will be made instead of the presentation on Family Limited Partnerships.)</p>
<p>Did you know that IRAs and Roths can be required to pay income taxes?</p>
<p>Many investors are exploring making alternative investments besides stocks, bonds and savings accounts through self-directed IRA and Roth accounts.  Some of these alternative investments generate income that is taxable to the IRA or Roth.</p>
<p>Lamaar Baxter of Entrust, Self-Directed Retirement Plan Services, and Michael Gray, CPA will explain how the tax on unrelated business taxable income applies and the related tax forms that must be filed when the tax applies.</p>
<p>The presentation will be made as a webinar on Tuesday, October 5, 2010 at 10 a.m. Pacific Time.  Here is a link to register for the webinar:</p>
<p>https://cc.readytalk.com/cc/schedule/display.do?udc=fbwqtabau9n9</p>
<p>The presentation will also be made as a LIVE seminar at the October 6 and 7 East Bay and South Bay chapter meetings of the San Jose Real Estate Investor&#8217;s Association.  The seminar presentations are  “meetings before the meetings” that will begin at about 6:15 p.m. and conclude before the regular meetings at 7:00 p.m.  </p>
<p>The East Bay meeting will be at the Hyatt Place Dublin, 4950 Hacienda Drive, Dublin, California on October 6.</p>
<p>The South Bay meeting will be at the Biltmore Hotel, 2151 Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, California on October 7.</p>
<p>The admission investment is $25 for non-members of SJREI.</p>
<p>Get more details and register now to attend at www.sjrei.net.</p>
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		<title>Should you convert your IRA to a Roth in 2010?</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2010/06/07/should-you-convert-your-ira-to-a-roth-in-2010/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly is with Hilary Martin, CFP of The Family Wealth Consulting Group. We discuss whether you should convert your IRA or taxable retirement account to a Roth account in 2010.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week’s interview on Financial Insider Weekly to be broadcast in San Jose and Campbell this Wednesday, June 9, is with Hilary Martin, CFP of The Family Wealth Consulting Group. We discuss whether you should convert your IRA or taxable retirement account to a Roth account in 2010. The interview will be broadcast at 4:30 p.m. Pacific Time on Comcast Channel 15, and will be broadcast as streaming video at the same time at www.creatvsj.org.</p>
<p>Remember you can find past episodes of Financial Insider Weekly at www.financialinsiderweekly.com.</p>
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		<title>How to invest in real estate using your IRA or Roth account</title>
		<link>http://michaelgraycpa.com/2010/03/15/how-to-invest-in-real-estate-using-your-ira-or-roth-account/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week's interview on Financial Insider Weekly to be broadcast in San Jose and Campbell this Wednesday, March 17, is with Tom Anderson, President and CEO of Pensco Trust.  We discuss "Real Estate Investments In Your IRA or Roth Accounts".]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week&#8217;s interview on Financial Insider Weekly to be broadcast in San Jose and Campbell this Wednesday, March 17, is with Tom Anderson, President and CEO of Pensco Trust.  We discuss &#8220;Real Estate Investments In Your IRA or Roth Accounts&#8221;.</p>
<p>The show is broadcast at 4:30 p.m. Pacific Time Wednesdays in San Jose and Campbell on Comcast channel 15 and at the same time as streaming video at <a href="http://www.creatvsj.org" rel="nofollow" >www.creatvsj.org</a>.</p>
<p>You can find a list of YouTube postings of past episodes at <a href="http://www.financialinsiderweekly.com" rel="nofollow" >www.financialinsiderweekly.com</a> under &#8220;past episodes&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hope you can watch, and tell your friends!</p>
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